Clarity: on 7 Mountains vs 4 Mountains – Using Influence for the Kingdom

Why do we mix Authority in different spheres? Confused Authorities

Our children are not whores for Babylon. A Generation Saying NO to Hollywood God is Not Selling this Generation to Hollywood.

This is God’s REAL strategy for Transforming the World – Family-Church-Government-Business: Transformation Blueprint

Just a few questions of clarity… (Thanks for the some of the questions from Will Addison and BSAC)

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Are the People that Teach 7 Mountains Evil?

I think the people that preach this have good intentions, but they are unaware of the error. The main problem is seeing Entertainment, Arts, Media, and Education as authorities. In reality: God set up 4 authorities – Family (Genesis 2), Church (Matthew 28), Government (Romans 13), Business (Proverbs 11). Education, Entertainment, Media, etc… are tools to be used, not “mountains” to take over.

For instance, instead of Sherwood Baptist selling their beautiful and talented members and children to hollywood like prostitutes, Sherwood Baptist Church uses media to produce and publish their own Godly movies that impact the world – all within the authority of the church. Homeschooling families use their own authority to educate their children when the “government education” fails. Smart businesses are realizing the need to fund their own training and universities as the education system fails to supply competent workers, etc..

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If we don’t get the 7 mountains how will we reach the world?

The effective and fruitful way to join with God in preparing the world for the Jesus’s return is: Godly families worshipping God and creating Godly Churches. Godly churches praying and impacting the leadership of their communities by preaching the gospel and winning souls. The communities faith affects the Government. The government creates a safe and fair atmosphere for businesses to prosper with witty inventions and the Spirit of wisdom. These are all seen in scripture and in Church history.

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So if we are not called to takeover these mountains, how can we be salt and light to the world around us? How can we transform the world politically and culturally?

We are called to be holy and lead by example in obedience to God and loving our neighbor as we love ourselves. Abandoning your calling to get influence in the world’s “mountain” is likened in the bible to idolatry, which is spiritual prostitution. The problem with spiritual prostitution is that it actually leads to the destruction of the church, not the advancement of it. Some people use Daniel as an example of being sent to Babylon, but Daniel and his generation being castrated slaves in Babylon was actually a result of the Spiritual prostitution of the people of God. Being carried away into Babylon was a punishment, not a goal!!!

When you focus on obedience to God, the transformation comes supernaturally. Oftentimes the 7 Mountains mandate is used as an excuse not to do what you are actually called to do. “I’m not going to build a strong family, I’m not going to build the next generation of churches” “You know why, I’m called to be a celebrity on one of the 7 mountains of TV for this modeling agency and record label”

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But what’s wrong with trying to influence these spheres of influence, can’t this be a way to win many to Christ? The gay agenda has been very successful in entertainment and media and education to forward their ideas. Can’t we do the same thing?

The gay agenda is nothing but destruction. They don’t have children so all they can do is force the issue every year. Give me a Godly generation of children and you’ll see a new nation in 40 years. Wherever the gay agenda takes control, the nation gets destroyed. See Rome, Sodom, Canaan… etc.

Whatever influence you have should be based on obedience, not on abandoning God’s ways to chase influence. That never works. If you are called to preach, then get prepared, start preaching, and start a church. Don’t say “I’m called to preach so let me get on a movie screen so I can have influence”

Use your family for your influence. Use your ministry for influence. Don’t be a slave to a wicked media company, just create your own media. Its totally different. We have to minister in the Authority of Christ, not trying to get authority from the World. People that follow the error of trying to get authority from the world are doing this because they have rejected God’s Authority.

Here’s how to use influence for the kingdom: Be a husband of one wife, and raise the children that the Lord gives you for disciples, blessings, and spiritual weapons. Start or join a church of likeminded believers that pray. Pray for your government. Work your business or job faithfully. Your family, church, government, and or business/job can use and develop their own education/media/arts as tools to accomplish their unique purposes. Education/Media/Arts are not mountains they are just tools!-

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So what’s the difference between a mountain and a tool when we say mountain what are we speaking of in this context?

In this context a mountain symbolizes a God given authority or institution. A tool is just something those institutions can use to accomplish a purpose.

For example there is no “education institution” there is Family (Homeschool) Education, Church (Discipleship) Education, Government (Public) Education, and Business (Apprenticeship/Training) Education. Education is a tool for the Mountain… its not a mountain in itself.

So if the gays take over government education, then you put your children in homeschool education and business apprenticeship. If the gays take over the nation, God destroys the nation. I’m not concerned about how the gays do things. I’m trying to obey how God does things… and you’ll have more impact and save more souls long term by doing things God’s way.

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Isn’t this just a semantic argument? Who cares whether its 7 mountains or 4 mountains? Everybody’s just trying to influence the world for Christ.

I wish it was that simple, but it is much bigger problem. It’s a big problem when you have a generation of young men who won’t start/serve in churches or music ministries, but cannot wait to get signed to a record label. It’s a big problem when modern-day Judases are called heroes because they are considered “reaching out” to another mountain of idolatrous false worship. It’s a big problem when mothers find no satisfaction or vision in raising a family, but they can’t wait to get out and take on a mountain for Christ. It’s a big problem when every talented child in the church is told that one day they will be famous entertainment whores, and then maybe come back to bless the church one day. Its a problem when the church is known for great Christian entertainment and media, but failed families.

This problem will be seen very clearly in time. When you preach with the wrong priorities, you will get the wrong results.

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Why don’t we just call this being salt and Light as opposed to taking mountains?

I agree. Being salt and light is something that Jesus taught, and it gives the connotation of our obedience impacting the world, and occupying till He comes. Leaving one mountain to go and take over another “mountain” that I called myself to is a totally different connotation.

You are called to build a family. You can fund it by building the church, building a government, or building a business with a tangible product. You can use education, media, and arts/entertainment as TOOLS to build your true professional calling.

If you’re trying to “blow up” on the mountains of media and entertainment… I can guarantee you that it’s Satan leading you. Wisdom treasures Humility over Pride. Don’t try to blow up, serve low and grow up.

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Matthew 4

8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.

10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

What’s the Point In Holding Word Ministers and Gospel Singers Accountable?

What’s the Point In Holding Word Ministers and Gospel Singers Accountable?

I mean, we’re all just human, right? 

The point is that when holy music isn’t holy, and is not lived in a holy life, it is corrupted and leads to corrupt lives and corrupt fruit, and causes corruption throughout the Body of Christ.

James says be not many masters for they shall receive Greater Damnation because they cause many to stumble from obedience.

The point is also that false prophets come in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are hungry wolves, so beware.

We don’t hold leaders accountable out of anger for them, but out of care and protection for the people they influence, and their own eternal souls.

Another point is that ministry is not for actors, its for servants. So when we follow actors, we end up like them instead of like Jesus Christ. The next generation is impacted.

But the main point of all is that if we love Jesus, we must embrace the Spirit of Elijah to restore all things. Jesus is coming back for a Bride without spot, wrinkle, or blemish, and holiness hastens His return. So if we really love Jesus and want Him back soon, we PROTEST those things that are anti-Christ, and substitutes for Christ.

Don’t Ever Buy, Power, Influence, and Confidence from the Devil

The dumbest purchase is to buy from the devil what you already have for free in Christ. Luke 4 the devil tried to sell Jesus power influence and confidence but good thing Jesus already had it – or He would have signed with the devil and tried to make it look like He was still with God.

Its the same way in our lives. Whenever we try to “buy” power, influence or confidence from the devil to be accepted by the world system – its a sign of spiritual retardation.

Offenses, Leadership By Example, and The Reward or Punishment for Influence

Offenses, Leadership By Example, and The Reward or Punishment for Influence

My first son has the chance to influence his little bros and sisses in right or in wrong – by example. He can make our parenting job easier or harder. And he can get rewarded by God for leading his generation in righteousness or be punished for leading his generation in disobedience.

It is similar in spiritual leadership – when you make disobedience appear successful, you become spiritually responsible and accountable for those who imitate or follow your disobedient influence. God is a great accountant and He knows how to trace rewards and punishments for good seeds of influence and bad seeds of influence.

– This is why James 3 says that masters, (or leaders) have a greater condemnation.

James 3:1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. 2For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. KJV

James 3:1 Be not many [of you] teachers, my brethren, knowing that we shall receive heavier judgment. 2For in many things we all stumble. If any stumbleth not in word, the same is a perfect man, able to bridle the whole body also. ASV

God was saying that not too many people should put themselves into position of leadership or teaching without God telling them, because they might cause people to be offended with their words.

What is “Offense” Really?

Today we use this word “offense” as if it means emotional insecurity or perceived disrespect. This word as used in the bible actually means to stumble, and in a disobedient step off the path off God.

Definition of Offend:

  1. to cause one to stumble or fall
  2. to stumble
  3. to err, make a mistake, to sin
  4. to fall into misery, become wretched

This is a major problem in the Body. People see the Word “offense” and think it has something to do with emotional insecurity or perceived disrespect rather than “stumbling off the path of obedience” to God.

Hosea 14:9b …for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein.

I encourage you to reread all of the Scriptures you know that say “offense” and put the words ” stumble off the path of obedience” or “cause to stumble from the path of obedience”, or “stumbling blocks to obedience.”

When Jesus said:

Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come ; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!

He was saying that if you cause a small believing child to disobey and stray from obedience to God, your punishment is so great, it would be better for you to drown in the ocean. He was saying that a lot of punishment is coming on the world because they cause people to stray from obedience to God. Whoever allows themselves to be the messenger or example of disobedience is going to be punished horribly.

When Jesus said:

Matthew 11: 4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see : 5 The blind receive their sight , and the lame walk , the lepers are cleansed , and the deaf hear , the dead are raised up , and the poor have the gospel preached to them . 6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.

He wasn’t rebuking John the Baptist for being emotional or asking a bad question, he was encouraging John to stay on his path of suffering in obedience, because JB had an important role in making a way for the Messiah, AND a share in the reward for the miracles Jesus was doing. He then went on to say JB was the greatest man ever born of a woman – he wasn’t rebuking him for perceiving disrespect or being emotional. He was in essence, letting him know his cut of the rewards for his obedience.

He was saying : “Look I’m healing the sick, raising the dead, and preaching the gospel to the poor. You were sent to prepare the way for me, so if you don’t back down and don’t back out of Obedience you will be very blessed.”

When you see the word “offense” as loss of emotional harmony, the devil will attack you and put roadblocks of conflict on your path of obedience to Gods will. Then you will leave the path of Gods will because of the conflict, keep the emotional harmony, smile and say “I’m not offended.” However, you really are offended, because you stumbled off the path of obedience to God.

Understanding the real meaning of “offense” brings great clarity to many issues of life. It will help you to find and stay completely on God’s holy path for your life regardless of the tricks, compromises and conflicts the devil puts on your path

As a leader, your main goal is not to cause people to stumble off the path of obedience. It’s not just words that can cause people to stumble from the path of obedience, it’s also your example.

Words are just the beginning. People do what they see, especially if they see people in positions of power and success doing them.

– This is why Proverbs says if a leader listens to lies, all his servants are wicked.

Proverbs 29:12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.

As a leader by example, if you even listen to a lie, all your servants become wicked and twisted from righteousness.

– This is why repentance is more necessary in the Church than in the world. God heals the land when HIS people repent and lead by example. (2 Chronicles 7:14)

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray , and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

It’s not necessary to get sinners to stop doing this or that. It’s necessary to get so-called believers to obey, pray and walk in self-sacrificing holiness instead of compromise. That’s when God is released to heal the land. God didn’t give unbelievers the authority,

He gave believers the authority.
– This is why it’s important to obey God and lose money fame and influence rather than disobey God to gain money fame and influence “for God.”
When you try to outsmart God in this way, you get punished even more harshly for spreading corruption, even if you still look good in the eyes of the masses. The influence and money you gain “for God” by disobeying Him is actually a negative for you and for everyone under your influence.

Real Faith Is Obedience
I used to think people that were supposed to know the Word didn’t know the Word. Now I realize that many Christians know the written Word of God AND know the voice of God, but just refuse to obey Him in order to have success in the eyes of people.

I have seen, heard and experienced many people who know exactly what God wants Biblically, AND have clear direct instructions from God, but choose to do the opposite, in order to have temporary success.

It’s actually human nature NOT to make smart decisions, but to go with what makes you and others comfortable emotionally. I’ve been guilty of this myself. Just a few days ago, I had a decision where I could cut down the data on my cellphone plan and save cash every month. Even though I didn’t need unlimited data, and hardly used it, it was difficult for me to make the smart decision. Why? The stupidity of my emotional comfort was the reason.

Ask any business person, most people make decisions 80% on today’s emotion, even against hard facts and clear evidence of long term benefits. A product that is better, and saves customers money every month is actually hard to sell, because it makes people change when they don’t want to change. The same thing works with spiritual decisions.

But Abraham sacrificed Isaac, and passed Gods test to give up temporary success for permanent success (Hebrews 11:17-19). That’s real faith.

Jesus endured the Cross and got permanent success and reward (Hebrews 12:2). He didn’t disobey God for the temporary experience of success and making people comfortable. He didn’t Jump off the Cross to stop the Earthquake and get a round of applause and thanks. “That earthquake was really shaking things up Jesus – thanks for stopping it, you’re the man!”

A man that is working for his wedding day works hard and suffers long with no problem, because his wedding day stays on his mind (Genesis 29:20). If he thinks only about avoiding his suffering today, he quits. Then he gets sad, scarred, and looks for a prostitute instead of a wife.

Spiritually it’s the same: in order to really obey God, you have to have more faith in the Eternal Joy Set Before You (by meditating Gods ETERNAL promises and rewards) than you have in the temporary reward from pleasing people and making a temporary profit.

Genesis 29:20 And Jacob served seven years for Rachel; and they seemed unto him but a few days, for the love he had to her.

Skillful Disobedience to Avoid Suffering is Dangerous

People follow what appears to be successful. But in leadership, the more skilled you are at disobeying God and making it look successful, the more Blood is on your hands. It may help you to avoid temporary suffering and loss – but you end up spreading disobedience, apostasy (falling away from the faith), and Tare Seeds across the body of Christ. Without public repentance the damage continues. At least with public repentance you can slow down the spread of Corrupting the Word of God.

True repentance and obedience to the Will (Logos) and voice (Rhema) of God even in difficult losses creates eternal joy and infinite rewards, both naturally and spiritually.

If God can’t use you as an example of obedience, He will use you as an example of disobedience.
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