National Health Scare – Rick Joyner

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By Rick Joyner

When I read the brief on what was contained in the National Health Care bill that is now being presented before Congress, I could not believe I was reading something that was actually being considered in the United States of America. This is not about money or government mismanagement—this is about something far more diabolical than that. As incomprehensible as it may seem, this is about euthanasia, the power to determine who lives or dies in America. Hitler and Stalin would have loved to have had a means such as this for dispatching the millions they killed—it would have made their job much easier, and probably given them the ability to kill many more than they did. THIS BILL IS THAT SINISTER. This is not a joke—this is actually the nature of what is being proposed in the National Health Care legislation, and it is the obvious reason why the Obama Administration wants to ram it through Congress before anyone gets a chance to read it.

I have resolved to always be as generous as I can toward people with opposing views of my own. I do this because I believe it is the mandate of I Corinthians 13 to always believe the best about people, rather than the worst. I know this opens me up to be misled by some, but I consider that a small price to pay to not become cynical. I also do it because I think it is wise to always try and understand the position of my opponents—to be open to consider their positions and not be too rigid or inflexible to change because we all “see in part,” and “know in part.” Because of this, I have been chided for being too generous by giving those I do challenge grace by believing that they had not thought through the consequences of their proposals, or had other good intentioned reasons for doing what they were doing. However, after reading the brief on this health care bill, I don’t see how anyone could not see that there is profound evil and evil intent at work here. I just do not see any way to be any more generous with those who proposed this bill than that. It is that bad.

This bill is obviously designed to put the authority to determine who lives and dies in America into the hands of government bureaucrats. As outrageous as that seems, it is true—you can read it yourself. It even gives the government access to all of your accounts, and the authority to make withdrawals. I know this is hard to believe, but you can read it yourself.

Do you want a government bureaucrat to determine if your mother or father can receive treatment, even in life and death cases? Would you want a government bureaucrat to determine if your child, or you, could receive treatment, even when it means life or death? Think of the best experience that you ever had working with a government bureaucrat, and then think about them having the power to make a potentially life or death choice for your child, your parents, or for you. This is actually what is being proposed.

Add to that chilling thought the fact that this bureaucrat does not have to know one thing about medicine to be in that position. In fact, this bill proposes letting the government define what quality health care is and impose that definition on health care workers. Nowhere does it even specify what training, expertise, or qualifications this all-powerful government bureaucrat has to have to be placed in the position to make such ultimate decisions for the health, well-being, and even the lives of Americans.

Am I being too hard on bureaucrats, or the Obama Administration’s intentions? Certainly there are many bureaucrats who are sincere and true public servants. I agree that such are deserving of our appreciation and respect. The modern world could not exist without them. Think of the most noble and conscientious there are. What kind of position would we be putting them in to have to go to work every day and decide who is going to get treatment, who is going to have to go on a waiting list and for how long, and who are they going to have to just let die?

Who could live with such a job? There are many who could, who would just see it as paperwork, and those are the ones who would be in that position because the truly noble ones could not endure it. Hitler found many who could dispatch thousands each day, and then go home and enjoy their own families at night. There are people with that kind of moral disconnect. These jobs will be filled and by the very ones we would never want in such positions.

It is beyond anything I thought I would ever see in my lifetime that such a bill could ever be seriously considered in the U.S. Congress. This bill has the potential for totalitarian control to be imposed on America to a degree that Hitler and Stalin could not have even imagined. With the technology available now, totalitarian control can very quickly be imposed to a degree far beyond what was attained by either the Nazis or the Communists, and this bill has provisions in it for just that. It mandates the sharing of all of your personal information, from just about every conceivable source, with the new health care bureaucracy being set up to implement this national health care system. The penalties for trying to escape this web are serious. This would actually make America into a national concentration camp, and we can be sure that ultimately it will be a national death camp. You do not have to take my word for it—read it for yourself. Below I will include a brief on this bill so that you can look it up, chapter and verse.

I am a pastor and a watchman, and I therefore have a mandate to watch out for the people, and to sound the alarm when I see a threat. I have never seen one like this before. Even so, I have prayed for restraint and calm as I address this, and do not want to exaggerate anything. In spite of this terrible evil that is manifesting itself through the Obama Administration, I am resolved to pray for our government leaders, and I try to pray for the President every day. My sincere hope is for a spiritual awakening for him and for those in every government position, and for the Lord to give them wisdom and help for the most difficult task they have. However, with all due respect (and I mean this), what is coming out of the Obama Administration is evil, more evil than anything I thought I would ever see in America. It is time to call it what it is.

In the early 1990s, myself and a few other prophetic friends were all shown separately, but at the same general time, that the same evil that gained access to Germany in the 1930s was going to seek access to America. I have shared this often since then, and have made many trips to Germany to seek to understand what happened there. Col. Eugene Bird became one of my dearest friends, and I spent many days with him listening to what he had learned about this, which was considerable. Col. Bird was the U.S. Commandant of the Spandau Prison that held the Nazi war criminals, and ultimately became the one many considered to be the foremost authority on Nazi Germany. Bird’s insight into how evil can gain entry into the human soul and into governments was remarkable, but I always had trouble seeing a connection that would allow what happened there to actually happen in America. Bird often chastised me for this, warning that it could easily happen in America (Col. Bird lived most of his life in Germany, where he became loved and esteemed by that nation, but he remained a patriotic American to the end). Bird often explained how the evil spirit of death that took over Germany gained entry through its health care system. Now it is easy to see what he was talking about in what is being proposed by the Obama Administration.

In Germany, the National Socialists (Nazis) gradually desensitized the nation to death beginning with abortion. Then they quietly, seemingly with the most noble intentions, rounded up the retarded and insane, claiming that the state could take much better care of them, but no one ever saw or heard from them again. Then they did the same with the elderly. As word slipped out that they were being euthanized, it was explained that war made it necessary to eliminate all of the “useless eaters” so that the troops could be fed, as well as those who worked for the war machine. By that time, the grip of control was too strong for anyone to protest or they would also be sent to the camps. Life became cheaper and cheaper, people became more and more depraved, and millions were slaughtered in the death camps.

America is following a parallel course. If Hitler had a tool such as the health care bill that is being proposed by Congress, along with the technology of control now available, it would have made his task much easier and more effective, and probably resulted in many millions more having been easily murdered.

I have had Presidents, candidates, senators, and congressmen and congresswomen from both parties tell me they have read and appreciated my writings. I have maintained for many years that an eagle needs both a left wing and a right wing to fly, and believe that there are excellent men and women of true conviction in both parties. I realize that by writing with this tenor, I risk being considered an extremist, and maybe risk many relationships, but I cannot be concerned about that. With such an extreme evil threatening our country, I would have a difficult time standing before the Lord on that great judgment day if I did not speak up as boldly, as clearly, and as loudly as I can. Call me an alarmist and I will agree with you—I am going to do my best to sound the alarm against evil in every way that I can, and I don’t think I have ever seen anything with the potential for evil like this national health care bill.

I pray that senators and congressmen from both parties who have courage and conviction will stand up against this terrible impending holocaust and stop this bill. I expect that it will be hard for many who read and understand what this Democratic Administration has proposed not to refer to the Democratic Party as the Death Party from now on, but let’s wait and see how the Democrats in Congress respond to this before condemning them, too. This bill is criminal—it opens the door for a crime against humanity on a level that could easily surpass what happened in the last century. We must hold accountable all who have written, proposed, and sided with this bill—and determine that with all the resources we are given, they will never be elected again for anything.

I pray that every Christian will wake up and rise up to take their stand against what is happening in our country now. If we do, we can stop this. If we don’t, we will have to stand before the Judge having let this happen on our watch. We can expect persecution and even death for standing against such a bold and obvious attack of the spirit of death, but no Christian should fear death, and no Christian will want to live in the world that is now taking shape if we do not become the salt and light we are called to be.

We are in need of the courage and resolve of Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings, who stood before the huge and terrible Balrog demon and declared—“YOU SHALL NOT PASS!” The demon was stopped, and even though it was able to grab and drag Gandalf down with it, Gandalf returned with a new level of authority. It does not matter what the consequences are for standing for truth, as Christians we must stand because it is our basic duty. As the first apostles demonstrated, to be persecuted and to suffer shame for our God and His truth is one of the greatest honors. However, we must do it for more than honor—we must also do it for our children and their children.

Last night on Fox News, a former Clinton Administration council to the President stated courageously that this bill was not just about money, it was about euthanasia. The money part does not make any sense at all, but now that the real evil that is driving this can be clearly seen, we can understand that the Administration really does not care about saving money or providing health care for everyone; rather it is about control. There is already talk about this being about saving money by being able to euthanize the baby boomers so they will not have to be paid social security, or weigh down the health care system with their needs. I’m not ready to go that far, but that is obviously why the Florida congressman declared that this bill was a death sentence for the elderly. That is true.

The only commandment with a promise that it will go well with us, and that we may live long, is the commandment to honor our fathers and mothers. This commandment is found in both the Old and New Testaments (see Ephesians 6:2-3). Killing them when they can no longer be productive, as Hitler and Stalin resolved to do, is the most dishonorable thing we could ever do, and we can be sure will bring the opposite to the blessing promised. As you read the bill, and see how excessively long they stay on the point of being able to determine what and if any care is given to the elderly, you will see it really is chilling. It is obvious this is a primary purpose of those who wrote this bill. I know this sounds far-fetched, and I would not have believed it myself a few days ago, but just read it for yourself.

The following is a brief outline of this bill put together by Mat Staver of the Freedom Foundation and Liberty Counsel (contact info is at the end). The comments by the brief are Mat’s, except where I have noted my own by putting them in italics. The bold is also mine.

After reading, please do not wait to contact your representatives to protest this. If you don’t get through, keep calling, send emails, but do not stop until you know your voice has been heard.

Obama Health Care Plan Details

HR 3200 currently under consideration in the House of Representatives

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Government will audit the books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC Bill – YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC Bill – THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get

Pg 42 of HC Bill – The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your benefits for you. You have no choice!

Pg 50 Section 152 in HC Bill – HC will be provided to ALL non-U.S. citizens, illegal or otherwise

Pg 58 HC Bill – Government will have real-time access to individual’s finances and a National ID Health Care Card will be issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your banks accounts for electronic funds transfer.

(NOTE FROM RJ-This really does mean they can take your money at any time. Who will have this authority?—a government bureaucrat.)

Pg 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions and community organizations (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Government is creating a Health Care Exchange to bring private health care plans under government control.

Pg 84 Sec 203 HC Bill – Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private health care plans in the Exchange

Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The government will ration your health care!

Pg 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill – Government mandates linguistic appropriate services.

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The government will use groups i.e., ACORN & AmeriCorps to sign up individuals for government Health Care Plan

Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill – Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members – Your health care WILL be rationed

Pg 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill – Medicaid Eligible Individual will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

Pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue the government on price fixing. No “judicial review” against government monopoly.

Pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill – Doctors/ #AMA – The government will tell YOU what you can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An employer MUST auto enroll employees into public opt plan. NO CHOICE

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for health care for part-time employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer w/ payroll 400k and above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

Pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between 251k and 400k who do not provide public opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable health care according to government will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay).

Pg 195 Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans’ financial and personal records.

Pg 203 Line 14-15 HC – “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax.” Yes, it says that.

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill – Doctors, it does not matter what specialty you have, you’ll all be paid the same.

Pg 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of doctors’ time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.

Pg 265 Sec 1131Government mandates and controls productivity for private health care industries.

Pg 268 Sec 1141 Federal Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.

Pg 272 SEC. 1145. Treatment of certain cancer hospitals – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing!

(RJ-NOTE: Much cancer treatment will not work unless implemented early, but the waiting time just to see a specialist will likely be months when this plan is implemented. As you can see in this bill, the option of the health care bureaucrat is to deny treatment to those they deem not likely to be helped by it. Watch the cancer death rate skyrocket.)

Page 280 Sec 1151 The government will penalize hospitals for what government deems preventable readmissions. (Incentives for hospital to not treat and release.)

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors that treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission-Government will penalize you.

Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government tells Doctors what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Government is mandating hospitals cannot expand.

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception, BUT community input required. Can you say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 – Government mandates establishment of outcome based measures. Health Care the way they want. Rationing.

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans (Part B), HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Government plan.

Pg 354 Sec 1177 – Government will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs people!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy – Tele-health Advisory Committee. Health care by phone/Internet?

Pg 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance [Death] Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life.

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!

Pg 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.

Pg 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The government has a say in how your life ends.

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “adv. care planning consult” will be used frequently as patient’s health deteriorates.

Pg 429 Lines 10-12 “adv. care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 – The government will specify which doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.

(NOTE FROM RJ: The above really does give the government the authority to determine who lives and dies, and when. A government bureaucrat really will be making this decision for you and your loved ones.)

Pg 469 – Community Based Home Medical Services=Non-profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?

Pg 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org. Like ACORN?

Pg 489 Sec 1308 The government will cover Marriage and Family therapy. They will insert government into your marriage.

Pg 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.

PG 502 Sec 1181 Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research Established. – Hello Big Brother – Literally.

Pg 503 Lines 13-19 Government will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic medical records.

Pg 503 lines 21-25 Government may secure data directly from any department or agency of the U.S., including your data.

Pg 504 Lines 6-10 The “Center” will collect data both published and unpublished (that means public and your private info).

PG 506 Lines 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.

PG 518 Lines 21-25 The Commission will have input from Health Care consumer reps – Can you say unions and ACORN?

PG 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More taxes for ALL.

PG 621 Lines 20-25 Government will define what quality means in health care. Since when does government know about quality?

Pg 622 Lines 2-9 To pay for the Quality Standards, government will transfer money from other government Trust Funds. More Taxes.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to assess outcomes and functional status of patients.

PG 624 “Quality” measures shall be designed to profile you including race, age, gender, place of residence, etc.

Pg 628 Sec 1443 Government will give “Multi-Stake Holders” Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of “Quality” Measures.

Pg 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those multi-stake holder groups include unions and groups like ACORN deciding health care quality.

Pg 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any “Quality measure” of health care services as they see fit.

PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed “Quality Measures” for Physician Services and Dialysis Services.

Pg 635 to 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision – Government wants to shine sunlight on doctor but not government.

Pg 654-659 Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections – Looks okay.

PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency – Government will tell you where your residency will be, thus where you’ll live.

Pg 676-686 Government will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, including teaching hospitals.

Pg 686-700 Increased Funding to Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. You mean like the government with an $18 million website?

(NOTE FROM RJ—Can you actually imagine empowering the government to fight waste, fraud, and abuse????)

PGs 701-704 Sec 1619 If your part of health care plan isn’t in Government Health Care Exchange but you qualify for Federal aid, no payment.

PG 705-709 SEC. 1128 If Secretary gets complaints (ACORN) on health care provider or supplier, government can do background check.

PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny health care providers/ suppliers admittance into Health Care Exchange. Your doctor could be thrown out of business.

Pg 719-720 Sec 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable medical equipment or home medical services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.

PG 722 Sec 1639 Government MANDATES doctors must have face-to-face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Services.

PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same government certifications will apply to Medicaid and CHIP (your kids).

PG 724 Lines 16-22 Government reserves right to apply face-to-face certification for patient to ANY other health care service.

Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforcement, proposes the Secretary-HHS will give Attorney General access to ALL data.

PG 740-757 Government sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured (That’s your tax dollars people).

Pg 757-762 Federal Government will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) to States. (Taxes)

Pg 763 1-8 No DS/EA hospitals will be paid unless they provide services without regard to national origin.

Pg 765 Sec 1711 Government will require Preventative Services including vaccines. (Choice?)

Pg 768 Sec 1713 Government – Nurse Home Visitation Services (Hello union paybacks).

Pg 769 11-14 Nurse Home Visit Services include economic self-sufficiency, employ adv, school-readiness.

Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Services – “increasing birth intervals between pregnancies.” Government ABORTIONS anyone?

Pg 770 SEC 1714 Federal Government mandates eligibility for State Family Planning Services. Abortion and State Sovereign.

(NOTE FROM RJ—Can you believe that in America you will be told how many children you can have, and when? Does this mean we can expect the government to impose mandatory abortions? How else can this be interpreted?)

Pg 789-797 Government will set, mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs brought to market. Bye innovation.

Pgs 797-800 SEC. 1744 PAYMENTS for graduate medical education. The government will now control doctors’ educations.

PG 801 Sec 1751 The government will decide which health care conditions will be paid. Say RATION!

Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc. req. to register. Government takes over private payment system.

Pg 820-824 Sec 1801 Government will identify individuals ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal financial information.

Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Government sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.

PG 829-833 Government will impose a fee on ALL private health insurance plans including self-insured to pay for Trust Fund!

PG 835 11-13 fees imposed by government for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes.

Pg 838-840 Government will design and implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids and families expecting kids.

PG 844-845 This Home Visitation Program includes government coming into your house and telling you how to parent!!!

(NOTE FROM RJ—If you think this sounds like “Big Brother” actually coming into our homes, we really need to think about what comes after Big Brother. The scenario being set up by the government to control people through this, with the technology now available, is beyond what the science fiction horror works about this could conceive of.)

Pg 859 Government will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes that’s billion.

Pg 865 The government will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps.

PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where doctors perform mandatory health care for two years for part loan repayment.

PG 876-892 The government takes over the education of our medical students and doctors.

PG 898 The government will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps to ensure supply of public health prof.

PG 898 The Public Health Workforce Corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.

PG 898 The Public Health Workforce Corps shall consist of officers of Regular and Reserve Corps of Service.

PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.

PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL include commissioned Regular and Reserve Officers. HC Draft?

PG 910 The government will develop, build, and run Public Health Training Centers.

PG 913-914 Government starts a health care affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.

PG 915 SEC. 2251. Government MANDDATES Cultural and linguistic competency training for health care professionals.

Pg 932 The Government will establish Preventative and Wellness Trust fund- initial cost of $30,800,000,000 billion.

PG 935 21-22 Government will identify specific goals & objectives for prevention & wellness activities. Control YOU!!

PG 936 Government will develop “Healthy People and National Public Health Performance Standards” Tell me what to eat?

(NOTE FROM RJ—This is no joke—the government will be able to actually mandate what you can eat or not eat. This could be helpful for some, but do we want the government doing it? What is the most fat and out of shape entity on the planet? The Federal Government. What kind of shape do you think the bureaucrats will be in who mandate such for everyone else?)

PG 942 Lines 22-25 More government? Offices of Surgeon General -Public Health Svc, Minority Health, Women’s Health

PG 950- 980 BIG GOVERNMENT core pub health infrastructure including workforce capacity, lab systems, health info sys, etc.

PG 993 Government will establish school based health clinics. Your kids won’t have a chance.

PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment. Say government brainwash!

PG 1001 The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?

Mathew D. Staver*
Founder and Chairman Dean and Professor of Law
Liberty Counsel Liberty University School of Law
Offices in Florida, Virginia and the District of Columbia, Lynchburg, Virginia
(800) 671-1776 – Telephone (434) 592-5300 – Telephone

*Licensed in Florida and the District of Columbia

Now do you understand why we have to stand up today against this bill and declare with
all of the courageous souls who are sounding the alarm and let us say to the bill—


Pearl Harbor is Coming for the Body of Christ

This vision is amazing… are you ready to die for Christ?
Because that’s the only way you will live. Hold onto Christ, don’t trick out.

-by James Kehrli.

In December of 1984, about a week after I purchased an old 1940
Cadillac sedan, I was driving around thinking about times gone by,
particularly the time before and during World War II. Suddenly I
heard the Lord say to me, very softly, “It’s 1940 and Pearl Harbor
is coming up for the Church.” I thought about betrayal, warfare,
death and awakening! I prayed to the Lord about it and He began
to reveal to me more about Pearl Harbor. He reminded me of a
scene from the film Tora Tora Tora in which one of the Japanese
military leaders remarked, after their attack on Pearl Harbor, “I
fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him
with a terrible resolve.” I thought about the Church finally waking
up to her true condition. I thought about the terrible price our
country paid, in the 1940’s to wake up to the realities of the world
political situation. The price was human life, suffering, and
destruction. But we did wake up. I thought about December 8,
1941 when we declared war against the Axis powers. Before that
time we were sending arms, supplies and money to our allies, but
we were not sending men to help fight. We watched China, the
Pacific Islands, France and much of Europe fall to Germany, Italy,
and Japan, but we were not personally affected so we did not enter
the warfare. It took a catastrophic event to wake us up.

I prayed about and meditated on what I had heard until May of 1985,
when I again heard from God during a baptismal service in our
Church. The person to be baptized was an older lady who was
quite concerned, even a little frightened, about being fully immersed.
But she, after fifty years of disobedience and rebellion against God,
desired to be baptized for the first time. Right before I was going
to enter the water with her, a message in tongues came forth from
my wife. The Lord gave me the interpretation by means of the
following vision.

This vision describes a future time of great hardship and great
blessing for the Body of Christ.

He showed me a deep harbor with blue-green water that was clear
and calm. There was a Person in the water. This Person was not
swimming or standing, but just floating in an upright position. He
was motionless, like a sailing ship listing in a windless sea. Many
Japanese Zero aircraft came in from the east and proceeded to
dive-bomb and strafe the body in the water and the body began to
slowly sink. Eventually the body was entirely under the water. As
he went down, I could see that there were many little people on
this Body. As this Body sank deeper into the water, many of these
small people jumped off just before they were about to enter the
water. There were thousands of people jumping off and swimming
away from this slow but steadily sinking Body. Some of these
people jumped onto beds, which the Lord made clear to me were
beds of adultery,and floated away off to the left. Others jumped
onto whiskey bottles and paddled away; still others jumped on
books, while others swam off on their own strength. All of the
people were floating, swimming or paddling in the same direction.
I looked over in that direction, which was to my left, and I saw an
extremely beautiful, gigantic woman, with skin and clothing of a
deep reddish purple hue standing solidly on the harbor floor. She
stretched out her arms toward the sinking Body and got the
attention of many as she very sweetly, seductively, and sincerely
called out, “Come unto me all ye that are weary and heavy laden,
and I will give you WHAT YOU WANT!”

The people who were jumping off were in a panic, like rats leaving
a sinking ship. Some scurried to higher ground on the Body, going
from the shoulders to the ears and finally jumping off the top of the
head right before it went under.It was clear that THEY DID NOT
WANT TO LEAVE THIS BODY, but it was equally clear that they
were not going down under the water with it either. The Body now
was completely under the water, sinking steadily toward the
bottom. Some of the little people hung on as it sank, but after a
few seconds of holding their breath, they gave up, swam for the top,
gulped a mouth full of air, and swam off toward the woman.

The apparently lifeless Body sank deeper and deeper into the
clear blue-green water. As it sank I could see at the bottom of the
harbor a beautiful, large, perfect pearl – obviously of great value. It
was supernaturally large and beautiful, lustrous, pure and round. As
I watched, I could see the Body change shape from that of a single
being, with little people desperately hanging on it, to many little
individual people swimming deep enough to get to this beautiful
Pearl. As they went deeper, many chose to quit and swim to the
surface for air and life and then go over to the beautiful woman. All
who quit diving eventually swam over to the beautiful woman.

Finally, I saw a number of these small people swim to the Pearl
and touch it, and embrace it. But to do this, everyone who dove
down reached a point when they realized that their own natural
ability to hold their breath and dive deeper would not be enough.
Those who dove down and touched this Pearl all came to
understand that they would have to expend all of their natural
strength before they touched and embraced the Pearl of Great
Price. This did not keep them from diving down though, because
the closer they got to the Pearl, the more of His beauty they saw.
I saw many touch and embrace the Pearl and then immediately
shoot straight up. As each of these little people shot up from the
floor of the Harbor, each had the Pearl. As this group of individuals
rose higher and higher, they all became one Body again. By the
time these Pearl-laden people reached the surface they burst forth
from the waters as one Body, the Body of Christ. These people
were manifestly His own possession and they in turn possessed
the Pearl of Great Price, Jesus Christ Himself.

As the Lord was showing me this beautiful picture, He spoke to
me and said, “Even as Jesus came out of the waters of baptism,
so My Body will come out of Pearl Harbor with a new and powerful
anointing of My Holy Spirit, and a new and deadly power to fight the
enemy.” He said that there indeed would come upon the Church
of Jesus Christ a Pearl Harbor experience like the United States
experienced on December 7, 1941. He said that when the Body
of Christ begins to sink under the water, because of a soon-coming,
devastating attack of the enemy, MANY will choose to desert our
Lord Jesus Christ because they do not esteem the Pearl of Great
Price (Jesus Himself) worth the price – death to their own selfish
desires. They will not make the selfless effort of love to dive
deeply enough to embrace Him because they do not love Him
more than their own lives. Many will choose not to identify with
what they assume is a defeated individual or group. They look
upon themselves as winners and will not identify with a Jesus that
is apparently being defeated. They will choose to identify with the
beautiful woman of the harbor who gives them what they want. As
the vision revealed, many who leapt off the sinking Body because
the woman of the harbor promised them success. Because of this
they went to her. Many others did not feel that it was necessary
to pay such a high price to apprehend Jesus, and they felt that
the beautiful woman would give them Jesus on their own terms.

As the Body of Christ came out of the waters of death, the Lord
said that His Body was now fully alive and would now fight the
enemy with purpose and real anointing. Also His Body would now
use only supernatural weaponry. He spoke so clearly to me about
the weapons. He said, “Even as the United States entered the
Second World War using conventional weapons to fight the enemy,
and ended the war with the atomic bomb, a weapon beyond their
comprehension; so My people will begin this spiritual war with
conventional weapons in the Spirit, but by the end of this war to
end all wars, they will be using atomic bombs of the Spirit”. The
Lord made it clear that we will come out of the water equipped with
God-given anointing to REALLY heal the sick, work miracles, and
deliver those in demonic bondage. He also made it clear that
before the warfare ends, we will be moving in a dimension of
spiritual warfare that is unimaginable to us now. We will do greater
works than Jesus did and we will see the demon hordes routed like
never before.

After this message in tongues and interpretation was given, my
attention turned back to the woman who was to be baptized. Then
the Lord said that the Pearl Harbor experience for His Church
would be similar to this woman’s baptism. I closely watched this
baptism to see what the Lord meant. The woman was very nervous
and quite afraid of going under the water. I assured her that she
would be all right. After several moments of prayer and a short
teaching on what baptism represented, she was plunged underneath
the water. She came out of the water with her hands lifted up,
praising God. I had not told anyone what the Lord told me about
this woman’s baptism, because I did not know exactly what was
going to happen. When she recovered her composure, she began
to testify about what had just happened to her. She said that she
was extremely fearful at first, but that when she got under the
water a Beautiful Peace swept through her, and all her fear was
gone. This beautiful peace became joy as she came out of the
water and she praised God for His great comfort, love and mercy.

I believe that God was showing us that we need not fear what He
will put us through. His purpose is to bring us peace, joy,
cleansing and power. He was also showing us that His Church
will go through a baptism. It is a baptism of the Body of Christ.
It is a death and a resurrection. We must trust Him to bring us out
of this watery tomb of death and into the glorious resurrection
power of His Son. We must understand that a harbor is a place
of SAFETY and REFUGE. God’s people who are involved in these
events will need to be safe and protected. The Harbor of the Pearl
of Great Price is the only harbor that will provide refuge and safety,
and ALL who believe will be more than willing to pay the price of
dying to their own desires.

Pearl Harbor is the death and resurrection of the Body of Christ,
being prepared to do His work in His way, with His heart. It is the
final separation of David from Saul – the David Church being
purified and separated from the Saul Church.

It is the final AWAKENING blast of the trumpet of God to rouse His
people for battle. It is the judgment that begins with the house of
the Lord. It is the refining fire that separates the gold from the
dross. It will be preceded by the Lord dealing with His true people
to both survive and desire this final preparation for battle. It is the
promise of unmatched power and purity: power over sin, power over
the enemy, power to live a much more virtuous life, and power to
glorify our Heavenly Father through Jesus Christ by the power of
the Holy Spirit. Even now, God is dealing with those in the
David Church even as God dealt with David. Whenever David
would start to fall asleep to God’s purity and purpose, the Lord
would abruptly DEAL with David to AWAKEN him. God did not
waste this kind of effort on Saul because Saul CHOSE to be
asleep to God and His desires.

Pearl Harbor is a warning of betrayal and disaster. The Church in
the past has gone through many Pearl Harbors of betrayal and
disaster. Jesus was betrayed and killed and rose again. English
Puritans experienced Pearl Harbor in the early 17th century and
survived because they could not obey the law that the Church of
England tried to force them to obey. They fled England and
eventually sailed to the New World, where they laid the spiritual
foundation for what eventually became one of the greatest revivals
in the history of the world. John Bunyan, wrote Pilgrim’s Progress
at the bottom of the harbor as he was betrayed by his own
country and thrown in jail for not attending the services of the
Church of England and for preaching in a way that did not conform
to this church’s liturgy. Had he given in and done that which they
asked he could have been a free man. But for conscience’ sake he
chose not to do so. Because of this uncompromising obedience to
the Scriptures and to God Himself, he was able to rise to the
highest place in the history of Christian literature. Today he still
blesses us with the fruit of that resurrection power.

To those who are not awake and prepared, Pearl Harbor will come
suddenly and tragically, as a thief in the night, and they will be swept
away to Great Deception. To those who are more open to the will
of God than they are to pleasing religious men, it will be an expected
ordeal, a call to arms, and a prelude to great victory. The initial
stages will be the harbinger of the greatest move of God in history:
the greatest Revival and the greatest manifestation of Christian
Unity that the world has ever known.


read this and pray about these things – THIS IS SERIOUS

On my status last week for several days was one of the most crucial scriptures in the new testament from 2 Thessalonians 2. It was so strong in my Spirit, and I have seen it manifest on a MAJOR scale.

…for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

If God is a God of truth, then why would GOD send a strong delusion?

Because if you refuse the truth, there is nothing left for you but a lie. And these days, the  lies are getting stronger, with a unique spiritual power to them.

I downloaded these notes today from

In it the teacher goes much deeper into the subject of 2 Thessalonians 2.
Please READ these notes, PRINT them out, and PRAY aLOUD about what you learn. You may want to get a short bible study group together NEXT WEEK to discuss it. Discuss it with your pastor as well.

THIS IS SERIOUS. Let me know what you will do.


Two Major Time Frames in the End Times – David Sliker

  1. 2 Thessalonians—the pastoral crisis (2 Thessalonians 2:1–2)


Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means…                           (2 Thessalonians 2:1–3a)


  1. Paul had taught the Thessalonians about the End Times and the Day of the Lord in three weeks (Acts 17:2) before being driven out of the region by hostile Jews. Forced to leave Macedonia and move south to Athens and Corinth, Paul wrote to these believers after receiving reports about them from Timothy and Silas who stayed behind. He comforted them after the loss of some of their brethren in 1 Thessalonians 4–5 by reminding them of the Second Coming and Rapture but warned them about false teaching on those topics (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18). After he had written his first letter, that false teaching infiltrated the Thessalonian community.
  2. The “rapture” of the saints is not a biblical term, like the term “Trinity,” but it is derived from the phrase that Paul used in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 to describe being “caught up” (Greek: harpazo) in the air to meet the Lord when He returns. All believers who are alive at His return will be caught up in the air and then transformed (1 Corinthians 15:51–52) in the “twinkling of an eye” into our glorified bodies. Believers who have died, according to Paul, would be resurrected, caught up first, and then transformed along with the whole Bride of Christ (Hebrews 11:40).
  3. The teaching had spread the idea that Christ had already come and that they had missed the hour of His coming and missed the Rapture. This doctrine had greatly shaken and troubled the believers of Thessalonica. Paul wrote this letter to correct the false teaching and remind the Church about the two major time frames that will precede the Second Coming and the Rapture.


  1. The idea that the Day of the Lord would come without warning—before the two clear and distinct signs that Paul tells the Church to expect—is exposed as a deception. This may seem like strong language to us, but Paul is unapologetic about calling believers to truth on the issue of the timing of the Rapture.
  2. In fact, any teaching about the Second Coming is false and deceptive if it does not include the events that the Bible tells us take place prior to the Second Coming. There cannot be a “gathering together to Him” unless certain things happen first. These events will be easily observable to any believer who knows and remembers Paul’s teaching.
  3. This deception that Paul is addressing is everywhere. Three examples are included below. All three responses leave the people of God totally unprepared for the most dramatic time of natural history.
  4. The pre-Tribulation doctrine that says the Rapture comes before the Great Tribulation.  The idea is that we will never have to see the apostasy or the man of sin. The pre-Tribulation position on the Rapture teaches that we will escape, even though the Bible teaches that we will overcome. There is a radical difference between escaping and overcoming.
  5. The second non-biblical doctrine comes from a theological system that allegorizes or makes the primary events symbolic. Therefore, these end-time events will never really happen; they are only symbolic. In other words, there is no literal falling away and no man of sin.
  6. The third group is the scoffers (2 Peter 3:3; Jude 18). There is a mocking spirit in the world and even in the Church about the topic of the End Times.
  7. the apostasy and the antichrist (2 Thessalonians 2:3–4)


…for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. (2 Thessalonians 2:3b–4)


  1. Paul reveals two major events that will take place before the return of Jesus: the “falling away” (the great apostasy of the Church) and the revealing of the “man of sin” (the Antichrist). These events will happen over two distinct time frames.
  2. The great falling away of the Church will come first, related to the emerging humanistic “Harlot Babylon” system that will be fully empowered globally for a short season, as described in Revelation 17. This system will provide much of the fuel for believers to reject their faith, lose their salvation, and join a global expression of faith that more closely matches what they thought they were signing up for when they accepted the Gospel.
  3. Jesus spoke of a time of great relational pressure and trial:

Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. (Matthew 24:9–12)


  1. There will be a specific time during a season of great pressure in which many people will openly and publicly reject Jesus and the Church. The pressure will be more than social in nature—it will be a political and religious pressure. People will be pressured to conform to a faith that has been compromised by the teachings and proclamations of deceptive “false prophets” (Matthew 24:11).
  2. The deceptive arguments of these false prophets will be so convincing that even the “elect”—the fiery, passionate believers—may be unsure of what is true in the midst of it all, though they will never be fully convinced by the false prophets and will stand firm (Matthew 24:24).
  3. The false prophets will be emissaries of a religious system that seems attractive in every way—in its ability to deliver world peace, economic stability and prosperity, even physical comfort and security. We will know this religious system as Babylon (Revelation 17:1–4).
  4. Babylon will be both a city and a religious system, used by Antichrist during his early maneuverings for influence and power (Revelation 17:3). Babylon will be “drunk with the blood of the saints and of the martyrs of Jesus” (Revelation 17:5).
  5. During the early period of false “peace and safety” (1 Thessalonians 5:2), many saints will lose their lives (be martyred) because they resist the pressure to conform and refuse to do so. Also, many saints will be offended, betray other saints, and hate one another―their love for Jesus will grow cold (Matthew 24:10–12).
  6. This shaking and purifying of the Church will initially be intense; it will be the “dark night of the soul” for the many people who burn with love for Jesus despite affliction (Song of Songs 5:6–16). The shaking will intensify during the Great Tribulation under the direction of Antichrist. However, this time period will also be the purified Bride’s finest hour (Daniel 11:33). Jesus encourages us to “endure to the end” in Matthew 24:13.
  7. The revealing of the man of sin follows the great apostasy. This is a second, distinct time frame (according to Revelation 17) in which the Antichrist will emerge and destroy the Harlot system, creating a global context for loyalty to and worship of him alone. His emergence, according to Jesus, marks the beginning of the most extreme time frame for believers in human history: the Great Tribulation (Matthew 24:15–31). Revelation 5:8–6:1 describes this time frame as beginning after the Church has come into significant maturity and testing at the hands of the Harlot system (Revelation 17:6).
  8. Paul calls him “the man of sin…” When Paul says “the man,” he means that the Antichrist is a real person who is coming; he is not just referring to the spirit of antichrist that John spoke of in 1 John 2:18–24. “…of sin” means that Antichrist will be the personification of sin itself—the living embodiment of all that men delight in and esteem in their lust.
  9. He is also the called “son of perdition” (2 Thessalonians 2:3). The nature of the Antichrist is mysterious. There seems to be a supernatural aspect to this man as revealed in Revelation 17:8 (he comes out of the abyss) and 19:20 (he will be thrown alive into the lake of fire, which is otherwise reserved for those who are not written in the book of life and who are already dead [Revelation 20:14–15] at the beginning of the 1000-year kingdom of Jesus).
  10. He will violently and systematically oppose anything that is called God or is worshipped. When he has destroyed religious systems and objects of men’s affection, he will take a central place in the hearts and minds of the peoples of the earth. In his arrogant mind, he will be the only one worthy of praise and adulation. He will despise the Harlot system because of its spiritual bankruptcy and deception, and thus will betray and destroy it. He will rage against Christianity by martyring many believers and establishing a false prayer and worship movement (Revelation 13).
  11. To establish his supremacy as the true god of the earth, he will stand in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem (that he most likely helped to rebuild—see Daniel 9:27) and place an image of himself in the Holy Place, an action that the Bible calls “the abomination of desolation” (Matthew 24:15; Revelation 13:14–15). He will demand that all acknowledge his supremacy over every other God—especially the Hebrew and Christian God and His Son. He will attempt to force all to worship this image, threatening those who resist him with death (Revelation 13:15).
  12. the removal of restraint (2 Thessalonians 2:5–7)


Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. (2 Thessalonians 2:5–7)


  1. Paul refers the Thessalonians again to his three-week teaching on this subject, briefly mentioning the conditions that will lead to the emergence of this brutal, evil world leader. How does such a man come into such great power and authority? He will be the fruit of the desires of the nations for this kind of king, who represents everything that they long to be. As Israel chose Saul over David, so the nations will choose this man over the true King, Jesus.
  2. This will not be a momentary decision; the coming of the “lawless one” (2 Thessalonians 2:8–9) will be the fruit of the maturity of lawlessness when the “transgressors reach their fullness” (Daniel 8:23). God will give men the god they desire when Satan is cast down to the earth (Revelation 12:7–9) and will give them over to the king they desire as well, as detailed in Romans 1:26.
  3. The Antichrist, the lawless one, will be revealed in his own time – there is a time and season for this man to emerge related to the “what” that is restraining and the “mystery of lawlessness,” or the mystery of man’s hidden rage and deep contempt for God. 

C.                 The nations will rage against the Lord and seek to establish their own king:


Why do the nations rage, and the people plot a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD and against His Anointed, saying, “Let us break Their bonds in pieces and cast away Their cords from us.” (Psalm 2:1–3)


  1. As the nations throw off restraint, the Lord will sovereignly remove this restrain in relationship to the “mystery of iniquity”—the hidden hatred for God that resides deep in the heart of men. God will give the nations what they desire.
  2. “What is restraining” (2 Thessalonians 2:5–7) is knit to lawlessness.  The time frame that Paul is speaking of will be the time of the greatest lawlessness and contempt for righteousness in all of history. 
  3. the coming of the lawless one (2 Thessalonians 2:8-9)


And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders . . .  (2 Thessalonians 2:8–9)


  1. The “lawless one” is the one who comes forth in the time of lawlessness that Jesus spoke of, when man’s sin is unrestrained and completely expressed. He will be fully revealed at the same time that man’s true nature is revealed, in a tragic way that ends with much loss of life, destruction, and widespread poverty, famine and disease.
  2. This man will be completely destroyed and defeated, despite his appearance of great authority, power, and victory even over the saints (Daniel 7:21–25; Revelation 13:5–7). Jesus will win a spectacular and effortless victory over Him as He reveals His glory on behalf of Israel; He will also vindicate the saints who have been worn down and blasphemed against by this man (Revelation 13:6, 19:19–21).
  3. The demonic authority this man will possess to control and deceive will be unprecedented in human history; he will orchestrate a deception unparalleled by any other global leader. Satan himself will give this man his throne of demonic authority (Revelation 13:2) as the Antichrist and the false prophet will do incredible false signs and wonders, counterfeits of the signs and judgments that will strike the earth through Jesus’ leadership and the Church’s authority (Revelation 13:11–15).
  4. the central issue: the love of the truth (2 Thessalonians 2:10–12)


…and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:10–12, emphasis added)


  1. What is the most necessary thing in this hour—to have all the facts and information or to be a lover of truth? It is critical that we seek truth and a spirit of wisdom (wisdom is different than information; it is right interpretation and living understanding) and revelation. This will come from the Holy Spirit who is jealous for us to come into “all truth” (John 16:13):

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. (1 Corinthians 2:12)



Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”? (James 4:5)



These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him. (1 John 2:26–27)


  1. We must become a people who love truth regardless of truth’s implications and cost for our lives. Our pleasure must be in righteousness with no toleration for unrighteousness, wickedness, or sin in our lives, ministries, families, or communities. If we will commit to love truth, the Lord will commit to help us to receive it, live it, and express it with boldness and tenderness to the nations of the earth.