Q: Are people in heaven and hell right now or are they sleeping?

A: In a nutshell, their body is sleeping.

Their soul is in heaven (paradise) or hell (prison). Not necessarily the final heaven (New Jerusalem) or hell (lake of fire), but a temporary resting place.

At the Resurrection the soul returns to the body.

This is difficult to understand because we are trained to focus on either body or spirit, not both.

The Gnostic mentality tends to overemphasize the spirit and see the body as unimportant.

The earthly minded mentality focuses on the Body and dismisses what happens with the spirit.

But God the Creator is concerned with both the Body AND the Spirit at the same time.

3 Scriptures that show how in death, our spirits go to a certain place:

Luke 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

2 Corinthians 5: 6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord…
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

1 Peter 3: 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

2 Scriptures that show how in death, our bodies physical elements sleep in the grave:

John 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus SLEEPETH; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

Mark 5:39 And when he was come in, he saith unto them, Why make ye this ado, and weep? the damsel is not dead, but SLEEPETH.

3 Scriptures that show the Resurrection will unite spirits with bodies:

Matthew 27: 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which SLEPT arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

1 Corinthians 15: 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all SLEEP, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1 Corinthians 15: 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Hell is Real / God is Good

Hell is real, Jesus warned us about Hell a LOT. Why do sinners deserve hell?

Sin is INFINITELY wicked, and deserves INFINITE judgement ONLY because God is INFINITELY good, merciful, glorious, and Thorough in His communication. He warns us through our conscience, through nature, and since we all come from Adam/Noah, every culture KNOWINGLY rebelled against God at one time.

Only liars like Jehovah Witnesses, Universalists, Goddess worshippers, and other LIARS deny the Reality and JUSTICE of God’s judgement through Hell. All of God’s judgements are absolutey righteous, true, and kind – because they lead to purification of souls and purification of His Kingdom (Psalms 19, Revelations 19).

If God was not infinitely worthy of love, respect, and obedience… then hell would not be fair. But since He IS, then infinite hell is fair and just punishment. Also, God has provided sacrifice for sins that sinners constantly reject (Jesus). They also reject their conscience that tells them that their idolatry is useless. They also reject nature which teaches them that God is big and infinitely more than their idols and worthless religions.

So the next time someone says that they can’t believe that a loving God would send anyone to hell… tell them that you can’t believe why anyone would refuse to love a loving God – with their sinful pride and arrogance, and send themself to hell in the process. Say it in a loving and patient way, of course.

This blog is just meant to be quick and to the point, giving a quick outline of an answer to the question. There are many falling away due to the supposed “unfairness” of God.

The main point is this: Everyone reaps what they sow.

For more info read Psalms, Revelations, and Luke. Also read “The Justice of God in the Damnation of Sinners” by Jonathan Edwards and

Persecution is a form of the MERCY of God

The Value of Persecution

Persecution is a form of the MERCY of God


Homosexual marriage crusades, Government enforced infanticide, violent massacres, talk of one world government and currency to fix a created “crisis…” The daily news sounds like a prophecy from the bible! Are you READY for the times? Or are you just waiting to disappear?


Jesus said to watch and pray that you enter not into temptation. But nobody ever really teaches the SPECIFIC temptation that he was talking about. Read this message and get prepared to renew your mind!


Persecution is a form of the Mercy of God


Why? It separates you from those who are about to get judged by God. Let’s take a look at some of the wicked systems that will be destroyed by God very soon.


Babylon the Great Whore Gets Destroyed


4: And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5: For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Revelations 18


In this scripture, God is telling his people to come out of the system of Babylon the Great Whore (a personification of the one-world economic and religious system) that is filled with sin. In this same chapter we see that she (Babylon) kills the saints. The love of money is the root of all evil. (1 Timothy)


24: And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Revelation 18


In this chapter we see that God is punishing this system with death and destruction.

All the false religions that have persecuted and killed people all over the world including: extreme Islamists, Buddhists, Communists, crooked businesses, and wicked governments, dictators, etc… will be destroyed.


Take a look at Revelations 18. In it you will see that the Babylon system controls commerce and economies, products of all types, governments, kings, businessmen, entertainment, music, slaves, and the souls of humans.


Jesus is going to Kill Wicked Government Leaders!


Do you know that your Lord and Savior is going to literally kill thousands of people in the end of this time period? Some people will call me extreme for repeating what is in the Bible. We need to embrace the entire mission of our Savior in order to fully understand Him, and to help prevent people from falling into that judgment, the severity of God. Knowing the terror of the Lord motivates us to persuade men and speak the truth in love (2 Corinthians, Galatians 5).


5: The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
6: He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.

Psalms 110     


The Lord will kill many government authorities (kings, prime ministers, presidents, dictators). He will fill places with dead bodies, and wound the heads over many countries. This is literally going to happen.


Ezekiel 37

11: And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamon-gog.
12: And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.

Ezekiel 39


This scripture in Ezekiel talks about a huge army from the North coming against Israel in the last days. Some say it will be the army of Russia and Iran. God will kill them all. God will kill so many people that they will have to hire people to bury them all, and it will take seven months to finish! This is a bible prophecy that has not happened yet. It will happen soon.


17: And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18: That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19: And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

Revelations 19


This scripture in Revelation describes the Battle of Armageddon. Lots of death will happen here. I’m sure you get the point by now. Let’s move on to a poignant question:


What if you were a part of the Wicked System?


What if you were a part of the Anti-Christ army that Jesus would eventually kill (upon His return)? What if you were drafted into an anti-Christ Army and they decided to go invade Jerusalem… or kill members of illegal house churches? Wouldn’t that suck!? What if you were a wicked business person that was a part of the Babylon system, or a false religion that worshipped your tribal God’s or idols?


The mercy of the Lord Jesus dying for your sins can forgive you of those sins and make you a part of God’s family. But there is another form of Gods mercy that separates Christians from participating in the sins of their nation and/or any system that they may be involved in. This mercy comes to all true believers who desire to live Godly. It’s called PERSECUTION!


When the unbelievers persecute you, they SEPARATE you from their company, so you don’t have to be judged by God along with them!


Persecution is like being pushed off a train track! Your response could be:

“Thanks, you should probably jump off too before that train comes!”


Persecution is like being pushed out the door of a burning building! Don’t worry about your knee getting scraped. Your response could be:

“Thanks, but you should probably leave too!”


Persecution is actually a form of MERCY. Persecution prevents you from participating in systems that will soon be judged by God. It’s God’s way of practically separating you from the judgment of the world. Your haters also get a chance to repent, when they see that you are not phased by their persecution. It also gets you a great reward.


22: Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man’s sake.
23: Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

Luke 6


This is one of the reasons Jesus said: “resist not evil.” This is one of the hardest parts of the Kingdom of God, but if we understand what is going on spiritually, it will help us to do it faithfully.


39: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40: And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

Matthew 5


Don’t be Terrified!


28: And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.
29: For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Philippians 1


Don’t be alarmed, or terrified by your enemies hating you or persecuting you for Christ’s sake. If you are unshaken by their persecution, it will be an evident sign of their impending doom, and a sign of your heavenly help and intervention from God! It will give them a chance to change.


It’s your responsibility to not only believe in Christ, but to suffer for his sake. Now that’s something you don’t hear in a lot of sermons! Yet, it’s all over the New Testament. If you believe and live according to the Word of God, you will suffer. Suffer what? You will suffer Persecution and Hatred from the devil and demonically inspired people. You will have victory in your God-given purpose, but you will have haters. Yes, it is a guarantee.


12: Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

2 Timothy 3


But what I want you to understand about persecution is that it is actually a BLESSING. It’s a form of Mercy from God, because it practically separates you from those who are doomed to judgment, and sets you up for a literal intervention of salvation from God.


Changing your mental understanding to embrace this particular type of suffering instead of avoiding it will make you a strong and fruitful Believer.


Never Avoid speaking the truth of Jesus in order to avoid being hated on for doing so.


Never Avoid doing what God’s Word says in order to avoid being left out, or talked about, or persecuted,


Always Support persecuted Christians that you see by praying for them, speaking out for them, and supporting them financially. Identify with them, being in the same Body as you. (Hebrews 12:3) This could mean supporting the Christian kid who gets talked about at school, praying for Chinese house churches, or giving to a ministry like Voice of the Martyrs.


Always Remember that persecution is a good thing. It’s a Form of God’s Mercy, and it’s a Blessing with great rewards. Renew your mind on the issue of suffering.


40: And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go.
41: And they departed from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name.

Acts 5


Why did the apostles rejoice that they were beaten and abused for the cause of Christ? Were they weird, or just really excited? No, they were just not as SPIRITUALLY BLIND as you and I sometimes are. They had the spiritual eyesight to see the VALUE of what had just happened to them, and they were genuinely happy about it.


We cry when our Christian message doesn’t sell as much as a wicked one. We cry when people talk bad about us. They rejoiced when they were beaten and commanded by authorities not to do what they were doing.


Let’s see how the disciples learned this new mindset.


What’s the Biggest Temptation?


Before Jesus was crucified He told the disciples to pray that they enter not into temptation. They didn’t pray, so they all ended up entering into the temptation.


What was the temptation? The temptation that they entered into was to avoid persecution by denying Jesus to be accepted by the world (like Peter did), or actually joining in the persecution of Jesus to be a friend of the world (like Judas did).


Jesus told them to pray that they would resist entering the temptation to avoid suffering, which is persecution by a wicked system, which is a form of Gods Mercy to separate you from the judgment of that wicked system. The disciples did not pray, they slept, so they did not understand that concept, and they all ended up denying Jesus (entering into temptation). After the Resurrection, much prayer, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost they came understood Jesus’ Words and were changed.


So right now, take a few minutes and…


Pray that you would never enter into the temptation to refuse Gods Mercy and Blessing by avoiding persecution for your faith in God.


At God’s throne, Commit to always testifying of Jesus when it’s not popular.


Proclaim that persecution is an escape from a corrupt system that will soon be destroyed!


Proclaim that some of your greatest blessings from God come from when you are not accepted by man!


(Take your own five minute break here.)


Jesus succeeded in avoiding the temptation to avoid persecution, suffering, and death! Why? He prayed. When He prayed, He was very honest with the Father. He told God three times, that He wasn’t feeling the suffering, and asked Him to check out any other options to get the redemption accomplished… but ultimately He submitted and did His Father’s will.


…Pray that ye enter not into temptation.
41: And he was withdrawn from them about a stone’s cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,
42: Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

Luke 22


The Significance of Flesh Sacrifice


Jesus was beaten till blood came out of every part of his body, with a cat of nine tails.


They put a crown of long, thick, thorns on his head, so blood was pouring down His face too.


They stuck nails through His hands and feet, and hung him on a tree. He died from not being able to breath, because his lungs were crushed by the weight of his body, because he couldn’t hold Himself up on the cross. His body lost too much blood.


At what point did He say, “It is finished?” It was at the point of His death. This was the point where He said “It is Finished.”


We know that afterward, He took the keys of hell and death (Rev. 1), and that his soul was not left in hell (Psalms 16). We know that in 3 days, He rose from the dead with all power. Those things are very important to the purpose of God. But when did He say it was finished? It was finished at the cross. It was already finished at the point of His death & suffering.


What was finished? Our redemption was finished! This was the point where He purchased you and I to be His partners, and the Church to be His Bride. His death was the point where it was finished. This was what He was looking forward to. The reason He died was accomplished right there at the point of His death.


Jesus suffered to be able to purchase us. We were the joy that was set before Him (Hebrews 12).


Why is it important to know at what point “It is finished?”


When you know the value, or reward of suffering for what is right, you are no longer afraid to suffer. When you realize that suffering is actually a form of mercy that separates you from a wicked system and leads to a greater reward, you will avoid the temptation to escape your persecution and suffering for righteousness. Jesus knew the reward for suffering; therefore He prayed that He would avoid the temptation to avoid suffering. Since Jesus suffered in this way, we can expect the same thing. He warned us of this repeatedly.


Yes anyone can suffer, but redeeming spiritual and supernatural power is manifested when the innocent suffers for what is right. People like Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and Rosa Parks took this one principle and changed nations. What can we do with it? We can turn the world upside down (Acts 6)!


Don’t suffer for your disobedience, sin, or foolishness. Suffer for what is right.


19: For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
20: For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
21: For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

1 Peter 2


Follow Christ’s Example and Suffer in Your Flesh; It Will Help You Out!


1: Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

1 Peter 4


– When you resist satisfying the lust of your eyes, that’s a death to your flesh.


– When you resist satisfying your lust and desires for illicit sexual pleasure or excess food –- that is sacrificing your self.


– When someone persecutes you for Christ sake, or because you are not sinning, that’s a sacrifice that is well pleasing to God.


– When you make less money by testifying of Jesus than you could make by not testifying and committing your work to Jesus, then you are blessed even more by God.


Let’s Learn to Embrace Our Suffering Instead of Avoiding It. I’m NOT talking about suffering from sickness, or suffering because of your own sin, or from the results of being lazy or disobedient and unwise. Biblically, the ONLY suffering that is a blessing is the suffering that comes from righteous acts. Let’s pray that we don’t enter into temptation to avoid this form of Mercy from God.

6th Message from Jesus – How to Be THE CLOSEST to God the Father!

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6th Message: How to Be THE CLOSEST to God the Father!
A Message from Jesus to Patient Christians
(Philadelphia) Revelation 3:7-13

Jesus describes Himself:
1. He that is Holy – transcendently beautiful, perfect, and separate
2. He that is True – no lie in Him
3. He that has the Key of David – Has authority as King of Jerusalem, spiritually and naturally.
4. The exclusively opens and shuts doors – Is in control of all opportunities. “I’m heaven’s bouncer, booking agent, manager, HR, connecter, rainmaker, etc…”

Why does Jesus describe Himself this way to this Church? Jesus is speaking a message of encouragement and assurance to a patient group of Christians; He is telling them that He is Trustworthy, In TOTAL Control, and Has no bad motives towards them in keeping them waiting.

Jesus Knows and is INTIMATELY acquainted with:
– their works. So He gives them an Open Door. NO Man can shut it, or take this opportunity away from them.
 – they have a little strength
 – they kept His Word
 – they have not denied His name.

He will make fake artificial Christians:
1. Come and worship God before the Patient Christian’s feet.
2. Know how much God loves the Patient Christians in this church.

Because you kept the Word of God’s patience:
– God will keep them from the tribulation.

Instructions: Hold TIGHTLY to what you already have!
1. Word- The Words of Jesus.
2. Name – the Name and authority of Jesus. Commitment to Him.
3. Patience.
Hold on to these things so no one takes your crown (reward).

Promises if you Overcome:
1. I will make you a pillar in God’s temple, you will stay there.
2. I will write God’s name on you.
3. I will write the name of God’s city on You.
4. I (Jesus) will write my Brand New Exclusive name on you.

The patient Christian that overcomes (maintains and hold’s on to the patience of Christ, trust in God’s Word, and trust in God’s name); will be built into God’s temple (be closest to God. They will also be branded with:
God’s name.
God’s city.
Jesus’s brand new name.

Name stands for authority and identity.

So over and above being a member of heaven:
 You will be build into part of the temple- be closer to God.
 You will have God’s name, and the name of God’s city.
 And Jesus’s new name as your “name brand.”

That’s sweet! You get to represent God more than anyone else in heaven!

Obviously patience is very important to the heart of the Son of God.

1. Notice that Jesus said NOTHING BAD about this patient group of Christians.
2. Notice how many good things he gave them:
– An Open door. Exclusive opportunities that nobody can take away.
– Fake Jews bowing down
– Being vindicated by God’s love before fake Jews
– Being protected from the greatest tribulation to come on the whole world
3. On top of all that, if they overcome (and keep Jesus’ Patience, Word, and Name), they get to be closest to God, be branded with His names, and represent God more than anyone in heaven.

PATIENCE & Faith in God’s Word and Name – VERY IMPORTANT.

If you have a heart that can hear and understand spiritual things, please PAY attention to what the Spirit is saying to the Churches- this is Deep and Important.


7th Message: How to Sit With Jesus on His Throne!
A Message from Jesus to Lukewarm Christians that Don’t Change Anything
(Laodicean) Revelation 3:14-22